Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Kevin.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Kevin.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Kevin.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Kevin.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Med Relief Foundation.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Med Relief Foundation.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Med Relief Foundation.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Med Relief Foundation.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Off My High Horse.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Off My High Horse.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Off My High Horse.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Off My High Horse.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Jonathan.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Jonathan.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Jonathan.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Jonathan.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Scott.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Scott.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Scott.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Scott.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Mr. Canada.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Mr. Canada.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Mr. Canada.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Mr. Canada.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. $0.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. $0.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Sally Pie.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Sally Pie.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Sally Pie.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Sally Pie.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same $150/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us $600/mo. for premiums. For $600/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same $150/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us $600/mo. for premiums. For $600/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: rhoads.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: rhoads.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: rhoads.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: rhoads.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent $2 mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent $2 mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Darren.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Darren.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Darren.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Darren.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... $0.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. $0.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> Comments on: 9 Examples Of How Health Care In America Can Be Improved http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/ Health Career News, Health Education and Health Info Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Kevin http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Kevin Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:28 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-51 We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record. We all have to take part in fixing the system, the first step any person can take is by creating a digital health record , this does two important things first it reduces medical errors and second reduces costs so that duplication of services are less likely. It also puts the patient/ consumer in more control of his information which is a powerful tool. We potentially could save millions of dollars if the public would just take responsibility for there own health, and it starts with the medical record.

]]> By: Med Relief Foundation http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Med Relief Foundation Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-47 This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It's also what Michael Moore's movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this. This is sad, sick, and should be criminal. It’s also what Michael Moore’s movie Sicko is all about. Regardless of your opinion of Mr. Moore, I strongly recommend looking at this video as it will likely open your eyes to more of this.

]]> By: Off My High Horse http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Off My High Horse Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-45 OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how 'horrible' socialized health care systems are, let's ask one simple question: As a patriotic American, shouldn't we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That's what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism. So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes. Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad. OK, for all the Americans on their high horse about how ‘horrible’ socialized health care systems are, let’s ask one simple question:

As a patriotic American, shouldn’t we have the *BEST* for our country? Should every thing we do be the *BEST*. That’s what these conservitives have been touting since 9/11 when they wave the flag of patriotism.

So, is our health care system the best? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. And it never will be until we eliminate insurance companies and start looking at price gouging in hosptials. Is the Canadian/British/French/German/??? systems better? Maybe, maybe not, but are they better compared to our? Hell yes.

Quit trying to convince people who are suffering, have suffered or are close to suffering people that our Health care system is great and their health care system is bad.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Jonathan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:12:26 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-44 To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name...?) What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what's your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that's like 2-3% of the population just like in the US. The point of Darren's post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don't end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried. Who's really on a high horse? All he - and I - are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn't ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing? To Mr. Canada (too ashamed to use your real name…?)

What are you talking about? Yes we pay higher taxes, what’s your point? In my entire life I will never pay 1.5M in taxes like some of the hospital bills listed in this article. Not even close, no way, no how. Maybe if I was rich yes, but that’s like 2-3% of the population just like in the US.

The point of Darren’s post is that people who do not make insane amounts of money are still treated for their health problems and don’t end up with a bill that most could never pay for even if they tried.

Who’s really on a high horse? All he – and I – are saying is that in Canada, and a lot of other countries in the world, an unexpected visit to the hospital doesn’t ruin your life. And for some reason you take that as a bad thing?

]]> By: Scott http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Scott Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-43 I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS... They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare. I think this is a useful article to point people here in the UK at when they complain about the NHS… They really dont know quite how lucky they really are to live in a country that has free healthcare.

]]> By: Mr. Canada http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Mr. Canada Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-42 ***The bill upon release was…. By: Alex.00. Why? I am Canadian.*** Umm....just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse. ***The bill upon release was…. By: Alex.00.

Why?

I am Canadian.***

Umm….just remember your braggartism when you look at that 24.5% VAT that you, and all other Canucks pay for those services. You and your countrymen paid for it in every way possible. So please, get off your high horse.

]]> By: Sally Pie http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Sally Pie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:49:27 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-41 These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don't both getting health insurance. What's the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don't get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills. These are the EXACT SAME REASONS why I don’t both getting health insurance. What’s the point? When an emergency happens, these people NEVER PAY!! Everyone is better off SELF-INSURING. As soon as you turn 18 years old, OPEN A FUND and instead of paying for health insurance, TAKE THAT MONEY and INVEST!! For the same 0/mo. that makes people millionaires by retirement, this could be used to pay for medical costs as you get older. It costs us 0/mo. for premiums. For 0/mo., I could have MULTIPLE MILLIONS by the time I retire in compounding interest. If you don’t get sick, the money is all yours. If you get hurt or sick, then take the money from that fund to pay the bills.

]]> By: rhoads http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-40 rhoads Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-40 Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case. This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can't spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost. Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn't even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn't automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, "You know what, you're 80, we've spent mill on you, you still smoke, we're not going to give you a lung. We don't care if you'd pay for it yourself, tough noogies..." Do you think these 9 stories are going to keep me up at night? What keeps me up at night is the fact that by writing off the capitalistic system of healthcare, some faceless bureaucrat halfway across the country is going to try to make a small set of rules that will apply for everyone in every case.
This will be the true tragedy because you will have a limited set of resources (doctor time, beds, MRI time, etc) and people will have no dis-incentive to use them (read: direct cost). The only logical step is rationing. How is it any kind of fair, if I have money, for someone to tell me I can’t spend my money on my own health. Life is unfair. People get hit by trucks. Some of my relatives have died, not so nicely. I am not going to gnash my teeth and demand that government take away the spectre of hardship at any cost.
Some of these unaffordable life saving procedures didn’t even exist 20 years ago. Just because a treatment option exists, doesn’t automatically make it available for everyone in every case. At what point will even the government based healthcare system say, “You know what, you’re 80, we’ve spent mill on you, you still smoke, we’re not going to give you a lung. We don’t care if you’d pay for it yourself, tough noogies…”

]]> By: Darren http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Darren Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-38 Re: #1 - Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was.... By: Alex.00. Why? I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada's system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace. Re: #1 – Is that Kaiser Permanente or Keyser Söze? :P

I currently am being treated for Leukemia. I entered a local ER on a Monday night, was given a preliminary diagnosis on Tuesday, had several tests on Thursday and Friday and started my Chemo on Saturday. I spent the first 30 days of treatment in hospital under constant care. Included in this care was all my chemo, several spinal tap precedures, a bone marrow procedure, 24 hour support, a private room and huge amounts of pain-killers. None of this was covered by my work health insurance. The bill upon release was…. By: Alex.00.

Why?

I am Canadian. I feel so bad reading these stories and I truly hope that your health system improves soon. I count my lucky stars I live north of your border. And yet politicians and lobbyists in your country continue to say Canada’s system is broken and not a good model. While it may not be perfect, it certainly gives me reason to be thankful of my birthplace.

]]> By: Alex http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Alex Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:21:45 +0000 http://www.healthcareersjournal.com/9-examples-of-how-health-care-in-america-can-be-improved/#comment-36 It just makes me sad to see this king of thing happen. It just makes me sad to see this king of thing happen.

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